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Congratulations, you’ve been elected to serve citizens of Florida. Was that why you campaigned? Some candidates claim they aren’t aware of the salary or retirement benefits that go along with winning an election but they’re made aware of those perks when they qualify.
For some elected leaders, collection checks can be as much as $1,000 a month every single month for the rest of the leaders life. And its all paid for by the tax payers of the State of Florida for a part time job well done.
Under Florida’s Retirement System, elected officials are eligible to receive retirement checks after a much shorter amount of time served than other state employees. According to the Division of Management Services the reason is elected leaders have a much shorter life span in public service.
In the case of Harold Bazzel, full-time Bay County Clerk of Court for 28 years, you expect the leader to be able collect retirement. But in the case of County Commissioners or School Board Members they’re paid a full-time salary and are given full-time retirement benefits despite also being able to run other businesses and maintain other full-time jobs.
One such leader, County Commissioner Mike Nelson, served on the Panama City Commission and the County Commission in the 80’s and 90’s. For his work Nelson was rewarded with a $541 check every month when he turned 57. Now Nelson has been twice elected for additional 4 year terms but is also maintaining his financial consulting business.
“Quite frankly if I wasn’t in office I would be making more money in the private sector,” says Nelson. “It cuts into my income because I’m spending at least 40 hours a week with the County and then another 30 hours a week with my business.”
According to Florida’s Legislative Committee on Intergovernmental Relations, Nelson makes $61,575 as a Commissioner. That pay rate is set by the state. According to his latest filings with the Commission on Ethics, Nelson brings in $35,400 through his private business and an additional $6,018 a year for his prior Commission service.
Is $6,000 a year for the rest of his natural life too much money for what is considered a part-time job? Representative Jimmy Patronis doesn’t think there’s anything part-time about being a commissioner.
“It’s part of a system that’s in place where if someone wants to go out, campaign for office, earn the people’s trust, and get elected- that’s kind of all part of the package they’re going to be eligible for.”
When asked if Patronis would consider sponsoring legislation to reduce the payment of retirement benefits to Commissioners or School Board members, Patronis says there are bigger fish to fry.
“What I find alarming is everyday there is waste in the state’s budget that needs to go away. I take more objection to that than trying to assess what we’re seeing with the state’s retirement plan.”
Former County Commissioner Carol Atkinson is one of those prior officials collecting $1,000 a month for 8 years of service. Atkinson says she put in 20 to 30 hours a week as a Commissioner. “I can assure you I earned every dime of it,” says Atkinson.
Atkinson goes on to state that she was unaware of the retirement benefits for Commissioners until after she was already on the board.
Bay County contributes $2.2 million to the Florida Retirement System each year to offset the costs incurred by the state for teachers, firefighters, and custodians retirement. Asked if that was $2 million well spent, Nelson says you have to offer a competitive retirement system to attract and keep good County Managers, Attorneys, Engineers and Budget Officers. But, Nelson says, the retirement benefits have never been an incentive for him to run for office.
Patronis offers a solution to those that may be concerned about the pay-out for officials that are technically considered part-time: ask your Commissioners to create a “Charter Government.” While Bay County and most surrounding counties are currently run under state laws, the Counties could, with a lot of leg work, create a “charter” or County Constitution of sorts to be voted on by the citizens of the County. The Charter would allow the County to set up it’s own rules for how elections are run, which officials are elected, and, retirement. But as with anything else, Patronis warns to beware of the consequences.”
“Theres no system in the state that’s perfect- theres no compensation system that’s perfect,” says Patronis.
On the same evening that the story came out about these part time elected employees that enjoy a lifetime of benefits, Alex Sink (Florida Chief Financial Officer) declared that Florida is in financial crisis.
There is a simple solution. Eliminating these lifetime benefits to the part time elected employees would go a long way toward improving the financial crisis that the State of Florida currently faces!
So an elected official should get more than an law enforcement officer in insurance benefits? Something is definitely wrong if people believe that. The problem has to do with when some (but not all) elected official create these laws to benefit themselves.
Hey, what about the $2.00 per acre property tax robbery? Millionaires pay $2.00 per acre and we get taxed out of our houses??? http://www.baycbg.com
This is not right. I work full time for the State of Florida as law enforcement officer and get a High Risk retirement. A officer is vested at six years. If that officer chooses to retire at six years, he will not get paid anything until he/she is in their 60’s. Mike Nelson is a part time employee of the state and makes $61,575 a year. Something is wrong with this picture. Mike Nelson makes twice as much money a year at his part time, state job, then I do as a full time state law enforcement officer, and when he completes his second term we are going to give him $1000 a month for the rest of his life. Plus what he is already getting for his prior services. This is happening all over the state. I fell that the elected officials should get something, but they should have to serve a minimum of 16 years, that’s 4 terms. It’s a part time job. The State of Florida has no money and makes cuts to schools and law enforcement ever year, but can pay $1000 a month to elected officials, like Mike Nelson. I think this is a good area to start making cuts. I know I haven’t received a cost of living raise in the last 4 years and I don’t make anywhere near $61,575 at a part time job, Mike Nelson.
Under Florida’s Retirement System, elected officials are eligible to receive retirement checks after a much shorter amount of time served than other state employees. According to the Division of Management Services the reason is elected leaders have a much shorter life span in public service.
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Will do a good a good job and help the tax payers and that life span my not be so short. EARN YOUR RETIREMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think we are getting robbed again!
Sound personal since my comments were directed towards the system and not a person. 8 years of service in a position that never puts a person’s life in danger I feel in not long enough to retire with a lifetime pension. Just because a person doesn’t make the rules mean you have to agree with them. When someone is a taxpayer and they disagree with the way the tax money is being spent they have every right to complain. And no, military retirement benefits shouldn’t be the same as county elected officials. It should be the other way around.
The County Officials that are mentioned in this story did not make the rules regarding full state retirement. Just because they served and are now old enough to collect does not make them bad people.If the retirement benefits are so unfair then maybe the laws and rules should be change.Maybe instead of questioning the rules these naysayers should run for public office to change them.Oh wait! If they are popular and effective enough then they may serve 2 terms and then they would be eligible for the retirment benefits also. Bet their story would change when they were the ones eligible for the benefits. I dare to say the jobs are harder and more time consuming than it seems.Should military members get the same benefits as elected officials. Yes but the previously mentioned officials could not control that.
I know retired military members that served 20 years that don’t get 1K a month. And they definitely earned every penny of it. 8 years is way too short a period of time only spending 20 hours a week on a job to earn that for the rest of your life. Compare working 40 hours or more a week and having to be available 24 hours a day, including deployments, remote tours away from family, and being in war zones around for world to your county commission job!
In some communities local business owners and other community people that care about their community volunteer to be on the School Board. I think this is awesome because it shows you do care about your community and that you are not doing this for a check or because you have to. Come on Bay County VOLUNTEERING is a great way to help your community, you don’t have to be paid to do everything for your community. Most of the people on the school board have other jobs, can’t they do more with less as we expect everyone else to do? Volunteering can have other rewards like a yearly bonus instead of a retirement benefits, just the insurance alone is GREAT, self employed people understand that. Gee, I’d love to work 8 years and retire that’s better than the military retirement program! What these people draw from our “students money” would be better spent in the classrooms and for teachers who have to deal with our kids more than we do….think about it.
Any goverment employee should be 65 years of age before any retirement is paid.
Mike Nelson is a Financial Consultant that does not know the difference between Bank of America and Charter Financial….sure he didn’t know about the retirement benefits…give ma abreak Mike!
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As a taxpayer that has now been informed that I will be paying a lifetime for these part time employees is it too much to ask that while they are on the job that they actually do their job?
The only thing that I have ever asked of the Bay County Commission is that they enforce the responsibilities of the other Bay County Governement agencies. They absolutely refuse to abide by the State of Florida statutes.
A representative at Jimmy Patronis’ office confirmed that they play by their own set of rules here in Bay county and that the laws made in Tallahassee are simply ignored in Bay County!
Can we hold back their paychecks until they learn to play by the rules?